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Becoming Whole
Relationships and sexuality are areas of life that can be beautiful or confusing, life-giving, or painful. Becoming Whole is a conversational podcast for men, women, and families seeking to draw nearer to Jesus as they navigate topics like sexual integrity, relational healing, spiritual health, and so much more.
Becoming Whole
Seeing Through the Eyes of Jesus
Have you ever wondered if freedom from sexual struggles is actually possible? This episode challenges the common belief that lust is simply "a lifelong battle" that Christians must endure.
Starting with the question—what happens when we forget what we truly are?—hosts Josh and James explore how our understanding of human sexuality has been distorted by both culture and limited gospel perspectives. They compare how differently we approach other struggles like anger or theft, where we expect real transformation, versus sexual integrity where we've normalized partial victory.
For anyone who has struggled with repeated sexual failures and wondered if real freedom is possible, this episode offers genuine hope. Not through trying harder, but through reconnecting with who you truly are in Christ. Jesus didn't just come to forgive your sexual sin—He came to restore your sexual integrity.
Free Resources to help you on your journey to Becoming Whole
👉Men's Overcoming Lust & Temptation Devotional
👉Women 21-Day Prayer Journal & Devotional - (Women overcoming unwanted sexual Behavior)
👉Compass 21-Day Prayer Journal & Devotional - (Wives who are or have been impacted by partner betrayal)
So glad that you are joining us this week for the podcast, because what we're talking about today, and actually over the next couple of weeks as well, is so important to me. It has been such a key part of my own recovery journey and taken me really further, so much further than I thought I would ever go in this journey, giving me a lot of freedom, radically changed even my idea of what sexual integrity is and how this all works together. So joining me today is James Craig, one of our spiritual coaches and also our director of projects. Hello everyone. Yeah, james, good to have you. James is in Pasadena, I'm in Maryland, so we're spanning the country. So if you're anywhere in the country right now listening to this, we are surrounding you, we are, we're flanking you on on both sides. If you're outside of the country, we love you and the Lord's got you, james.
Speaker 1:I want to start with this question and you can answer this. I certainly have my thoughts about this. But what's? What is your? Is your like? You grew up in among guys. You grew up among men and women. You grew up in a, in the, this sexually permissive age that we live in. Um, we're, we're different generations, you and me. I grew up in the 70s and 80s, right at the beginning of maybe what people call purity culture. Um, I think you grew up maybe I was like tail end of purity sort of yeah, so if there's yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So, but what's your, what is your general sense for? Uh, in in culture in general, but also among christians, and maybe we answer differently for for each of those. Um, no, general general sense. Culture, church, like how common is lust and how acceptable is it?
Speaker 2:You know, I think when I was growing up it felt like so taboo it felt it kind of felt like lust was like the worst possible sin that could be committed, so much so that in the church it felt like there's a lot of silence in churches I was a part of and a lot of just like we wouldn't really know how to talk about this anyway, so why bring it up, even though you know it was so pervasive? And then in um man, in public schools that I was part of, it was like a hundred percent assumed that lust was just what guys do, and actually I wouldn't say quite as much with with the ladies that I knew and obviously I wasn't as privy to everything with them. But, um, but there was almost like a we're gonna go tit for tat if the men are doing all this lust, like there's kind of a game that was being played almost like of response, a call and response, a very, you know, bad call and response, if you will.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, and probably same for me in the church, largely silent, although when people talked about it, when that kind of bridge was crossed among Christian guys that I knew cause I was befriending guys in this we didn't talk to girls about this, um, I didn't as a kid, Um, but when that bridge was crossed, there was also still typically like, yeah, this is a sin, but, um, but it's an every every guy's sin. Actually, when I, early on in my time, at regeneration even so, I was in my 20s at that point uh, the book by Fred Stoker and Steve Arterburn came out every man's battle and it was kind of like, yep, cause it's every man's, but like everybody struggles with this and, um, even to this day, I think, in church circles there's there's often just kind of like a yeah, you know, we got to stop with this and this behavior. Lust is going to be with us.
Speaker 2:Um, even just this week I heard it's a lifelong struggle and part of me was like okay, I don't know this person well enough to unpack that here and now, but I wonder what they mean by that Um yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that that's that probably summarizes it.
Speaker 1:from among Christians it's a lifelong struggle and certainly for those in recovery, there may be the sentiment of a lifelong struggle and it is. And that's such a key question Like, what do you mean by struggle? What do you mean by that? And that's what I want to get into. So here's the question I want to pose to listeners. You can think about the question we were just discussing a little bit, but. But just just put that in pause for a moment and consider this. And it's going to sound like a, a turn in a different direction, but it's, it's just track of me here.
Speaker 1:What would happen to a society, what would happen to a, to a country, to a people group, if they forgot what they are? If they forgot what they are, I don't know, I don't just mean, like, if they forgot who they were. Like you know, I got amnesia and I can't remember my name and I can't remember my friends. That would be significant enough. And again, growing up in the seventies and eighties, like made you think that amnesia was something that happened very, very commonly because it was in a lot of movies and shows. But it doesn't. But, but we get enough of a picture like, yeah, that would be really difficult if I didn't remember my people, but not just like who you are, but what you are and what would happen if we forgot what we are.
Speaker 1:And the reason I raised the question, I mean, it's hardly hard to fathom even. But the reason I raised the question is because I actually believe in relationship to the topic of lust, in the relationship in relationship to the topic of sexual integrity. We actually live among the people who have forgotten what we are and and to your point, james, about the idea of, well, yeah, lust is a lifelong struggle. There's an assumption that so many Christians carry about what we are, the fabric of what we are, the fabric of what it means to be sexual, the fabric about what sex is, the fabric about what sexual desire is that we live underneath these kind of glass ceilings of expectation about how far Christ might take us, how far we might, what freedom might look like in our lives based on having forgotten what in fact we are.
Speaker 2:It already strikes meosh with that that like can you imagine someone saying to you, like I've got anger problems. You know I'm in my late 20s, I got anger problems, but you know it's a lifelong struggle, like I'm gonna be bursting out at my wife until we die? You know that you'd be like okay, like on one level there might be some. You know we all have to wrestle with anger. But like if you were still in that exact same place 60 years later with bursting out at your spouse, I mean that would be kind of a bizarre thing to assume about yourself. Right? That's just an example popping into my mind. We don't probably do that with anger, but we do that with lust that's great, great example.
Speaker 1:Yeah, let's take another one. Like, let's say um, somewhere early in your teens you, you started shoplifting and then that problem grew into something more and more.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Can you imagine. And?
Speaker 1:and then you become a hedge fund manager.
Speaker 2:And now you're not just kidding.
Speaker 1:Yeah Well, yeah. So let's say you're, you know you're, you're stealing people's money, you're stealing cars, whatever, like big, big time stuff. And you come to Christ you're like, yeah, man, you know I've given up that stuff, but you know, from time to time I take a candy bar. You know, like I it's, it's going to be a lifelong thing for me. Um man, we'd applaud, we'd say, hey, praise God, you're not stealing cars anymore and you're not robbing people of their, their pensions. And yet I don't think most of us would be like, yeah, but you know, it's all right If you, you know everyone struggles with stealing here and there.
Speaker 1:It's like try a shirt on and wear it home without paying for that. You know, like we, we wouldn't, we wouldn't do that, but we, but we do that with lust and I and I think a chunk of it is because we have forgotten what in fact we are. What in fact we are, we don't have a problem saying we are, we are not designed to take people's stuff and we wouldn't be satisfied with like, yeah, you just take people's stuff. As a matter of fact, part of Christian teaching is you're not just made not to take people's stuff, you're actually made to be generous with all of your stuff, to give it to the Lord, to give it to others who need. And there's a great corollary and we're going to get into that later around the topic of lust.
Speaker 1:So I've forgotten where we are. So let's, let's, let's shift gears and talk about Jesus here. And this is one of the places, too, where I think, um, if you're listening, uh, take hope, because Jesus has come. And I think this is one of the places where I think it reveals sometimes our own eclipsed versions of what the gospel is, because when we think about the gospel, for example, as it's a ticket of forgiveness. You know, jesus is the propitiation for our sins. If that is our whole view of what the gospel is, then I sin but I'm forgiven. I sin but I'm forgiven, I sin but I'm forgiven, I sin but I'm forgiven. And that sets us up or can leave us in a place where we are still doing the little things that we do, maybe getting better over time, but we're still engaging in those things.
Speaker 1:The gospel certainly includes that Jesus is the sacrifice for our sin. He is the lamb of God who takes away the sins of the world, meaning, when we sin, he washes us clean of those sins. But that's not all he is. Another motif of the gospel is that he is our example. He shows us what it is to be human. He shows us actually what we are. We have forgotten who we are. So, with this motif that Jesus this other part of the gospel that Jesus also came to be an example of what we are that changes things for us Like. How does that? What does that mean for us when it comes to this realm of like, lust or, you know, stealing or whatever Like, but we're talking about lust, like. So, james, what pops for you as you think about like okay. The gospel does include that Jesus is our sacrifice, but it also includes that he is our example.
Speaker 2:I remember it was a freshman year of college that I was my life was being changed because I had never even heard the term the gospel despite growing up in Christian settings. At least I don't remember hearing it and I was being like really transformed by the cross, like God, like no matter what sin I bring to him. I'd confess to my old mentor every week and he would just talk about God's love and forgiveness. I was like what on earth is this? This doesn't make any sense. So I'm being saturated with that. And then I did a deep dive study this was back with InterVarsity, which I was part of as a college student in the Gospel of Mark.
Speaker 2:And I remember thinking and I actually asked one of the facilitators, like if the cross is the only motif of the gospel, like what does Jesus keep saying when he keeps saying the gospel of the kingdom?
Speaker 2:Or like the good news is being preached, I'm like he hasn't died yet and it does, I'm assuming. I mean part of it might be like I am going to be going to die, but it was like Whoa, there's something more here. And I remember John Mark Comer. I recently heard him say that the gospels are the gospel, like the four gospels are the gospel in a broad sense and it really makes me think what you're saying. Like it was the teaching, it was the healing, it was the miracles, it was the care he gave for people, it was in some sense the person of Jesus himself, but it was more than just that incredibly important heart of the gospel you might argue of the cross, but it was more expansive. So I've been on that journey of like what on earth is this thing that we keep calling the gospel, and I imagine many of our listeners too like what does it actually mean that? Like there's good news for us in Jesus's life and his death and his resurrection, but also his life, you know, and even his birth Right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I hope we'll get even in this in this mini series. I mean, I hope, if you listen to our podcast regularly, that you, you, you're, you're drinking in and getting breath, like taking deep breaths of some of the fullness of the gospel, because it is so much and theologians have different perspectives, different denominations may highlight different parts of the gospel. We, I tend to think like, yeah, any, any part of the gospel, any, anybody highlighting, like, what the gospel is like? Yes and amen, it is that and it is that and it is that. And I think we probably tend to minimize it too much and so I'm not trying to say the gospel is only these two things. Jesus' sacrifice so we can be forgiven for our sins and he's an example to us. It's more than that, but it is at least in part. Jesus comes to show us what we are, and we'll dig into that more in the coming two weeks as well. To show us what we are, and we'll dig into that more in the coming two weeks as well. But, coming right back to this place of lust, let's just look at Jesus's life for a minute and consider the reality that he you can't read any of the four gospels and go.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think he sees the world like I do. I mean one of the things that Jesus, like, some of the things he says, are very enigmatic. People will ask him questions that seem rather direct and he'll answer in a way that sounds like he's answering a different question altogether. Um, I think about nicodemus here, who comes to him at night and like he's, he's, he's, you know, I hey, I get, you're a, you're a, you're a man of god, because you can't perform these things without, without that, but like, but, like, I'm just trying to figure you out. And then Jesus kind of gets into this realm of like yeah, well, you know, unless you're born again, you can't enter the kingdom. And and like, born again, what? Like you know, what are we talking about here? And there are stranger things than that that Jesus says places where, like Jesus seems to see or know or perceive things about people that he has no, like other people around him just don't, don't catch, don't get.
Speaker 1:I think about in John, when actually this is many, multiple times in the gospel. But Jesus looks out at the crowds and sees them as a sheep, a sheep without a shepherd. He's perceiving, he's seeing something about that group of people that others around him are. I think about um, uh, mark writes about Jesus seeing the, the widow, dropping some coins in the um, in the collection plate or whatever the equivalent was in the in the temple. And Jesus sees her and I think Mark I think it's Mark, it might be one of the other gospel writers calls his disciples over and says and points her out and says I'm telling you, this woman gave more than everybody else.
Speaker 1:So she gave, like you know, two coins. Other people are given lots more, but to Jesus, his eyes, she gave more than everybody else. So so here's my point Jesus sees things differently than we do right out of the gates and for for much of our lives. If he is an example, if he is the example of this is what you are then he's. This is not just the exception to the rule. He is the example of of humanity, example of of humanity.
Speaker 2:We are meant to see what he sees and how he sees, and this has everything to do with our own battle with pornography or lust or whatever else we're dealing with in that regard so some of what it sounds like you're saying is, excuse me, some of what you're saying, I think, is more than just this propitiation, more than just a sacrifice, more than just this propitiation, more than just a sacrifice, more than just you fall so short and you need help. There's also this element of like. I'm modeling to you all what a man truly was made to be. I'm modeling to you the truth of, of, of man, of woman, like, in the sense of like. This is what a human life is supposed to look like. Yes, it might be hard for some of us to get our heads around like wait, but he's God and so you know, doesn't he kind of live on a higher plane of purity, virtue or however you want to think about it?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah and yeah and yes. And our creeds declare that Jesus became human, not appeared human, not pretended to be human, not showed up kind of in human skin to get close to us, but in fact became human, human skin to get close to us, but in fact became human. And we read out of his own lips that he is going to return. There is something profound about Jesus' incarnation that is like I actually. I was emailing a pastor a few years back as we were kind of approaching, we were working through Advent, and I said to him hey, as crazy as the resurrection is, as hard as that is to believe, that it actually literally happened. The thing that is so much more difficult for me to believe and I literally can't wrap my brain around it. My brain is too small, can't wrap my brain around it, my brain is too small. It is the incarnation that God, the creator of the universe, the infinite one, the eternal one, the all powerful one, the omnipotent one, the omniscient one, became a human person. That is unfathomable to me, like how could God possibly fit into the frame of a mortal who lived in the middle East in the first century, like it? It doesn't make any sense. And one of the creeds is, uh, like the apostles creed, the nicene creed. They make these declarations like, yeah, um, this, this is true, and they kind of step away. They don't try to explain it literally. I mean not that those who were the church fathers didn't try to unpack that stuff a little bit more, but like there is a mystery there and, um, but, and I don't want it, we could, we could spend gobs of time talking about that and and you know volumes of of books, but for our purposes, in this podcast, I I want to highlight, like, where we kind of look at Jesus as the exception to the rule and we think, well, the reason that he was able to sit and and not lust after the woman who was caught in adultery, even though she may have just had like a sheet around her or something, and and her sin is being exposed and people are naming, in fact, in front of her that she, we literally just brought her from having sex, like she was literally just having sex and men's minds in the room and women's minds in the space might've been like, oh my gosh, and kind of they're envisioning stuff, and some of them are probably, you know, if they're, if they've got their own sexual sin struggles, might be checking her out in an inappropriate way, on and on and on. But if, if we really believe that Jesus there treated her with dignity, he did not lust after her, he looked at her in the eyes and loved her like that if we think of that, as that's the exception we could never do that Then we are missing a huge spectrum of what the gospel is actually meant to bring us.
Speaker 1:And it's, and it includes the example piece. It also includes this the gospel means that that where we have separated ourselves from God through sin, um, jesus has reunited humanity with God. We have faith in him. That means we are actually reunited. So the one way to think about it is in Genesis 2, god breathes his breath of life into this clay figure he's created and that figure now becomes a living being. So, right from the get-go, we know there's something in humanity's design that is meant to that only exists in union with God.
Speaker 1:And when Adam and Eve sinned, they ruptured that and the light started going out in all of creation and certainly in them. We're going to talk about that a little bit later in one of the other podcasts. Um, but when Jesus comes onto the scene, he is the second Adam. So we're the first Adam unplugged us from, from God, the father, from God's spirit. The second Adam restores that. That's why he's Emmanuel, god with us, not just around us, not just nearby, not just accessible, but actually God with us.
Speaker 1:Um, and there's so many places in scripture that point to this Um, uh, if anyone is, is is in Christ. What does that mean? We're in Christ. Paul talks about where our bodies are, the temple of the Holy spirit. Um, uh, he. He compares, uh, union with one's bride we're gonna talk about this too uh, to union with God spiritually. Union with one's bride um, we're going to talk about this too to union with God spiritually. Union with one's bride in covenant and sexually is a picture of union with God spiritually and in covenant. Anyway, I'm getting ahead of ourselves here. But all this to say that this is another part of the gospel. So if we look at Jesus as the example of what we are meant to be and we go, how can that be? Well, how it can be is because he, this other part of the gospel, which is he, is.
Speaker 2:He has united himself, his godhood, his divinity, to our humanity so that we might be restored to who we are actually, what we were actually created to be so one of the things you're saying here is that, yes, just in a purely natural life, you might actually really say in our fallen state, you could expect someone to be dealing with lust or theft or whatever else to the end of their days, whether maybe internally, externally, whatever that looks like of his spirit. Because the spirit, the god himself, is living in christians. He's bringing his fruit, he's bringing his power, he's bringing his love to bear through their lives. And that actually takes us back to the original design of like. His spirit was in us and that was what we lived by that. We lived by him from the start and then the fall, you know, separated us from that. But Jesus is restoring that so that we can actually live in such a way that is like him.
Speaker 1:Yes, yeah, yeah. So let's just take those two motifs of the gospel. One is the sacrifice of Jesus forgives us of our sin, and this other is that God has reunited humanity with himself. They might be fully alive again and fully what they're designed to be, what they were always meant to be again. And listen to Jesus's words at the beginning of the gospel, when he says repent, repent, um, and believe the gospel. Repent and believe the gospel. Believe the good news, um and believe the gospel. Repent and believe the gospel, believe the good news. Well, what does that mean? If he, if it, if it's just you're forgiven, then why the repentance? Why the turn from your evil ways? What is, what is what part does that play Like? Repent because you're forgiven, um, and some people would suggest well, because you're, you're grateful that you're forgiven.
Speaker 1:Well sure, sure, but there's so much more than that Repent. You can repent because of the gospel, because I am here, because you are now able to reconnect with God in an incredible way. We might even say that our capacity to repent itself comes from the gospel, not just. You know, we repent into the gospel. We can repent because of the gospel. We actually have the capacity to turn away from our sin, because of the gospel.
Speaker 2:And there's something about this idea of repentance too is like I just keep picturing. I think there's an old, maybe mobile game or something like that, where you turn pipes so that the water can flow through. You know, like a puzzle, a puzzle game, if you can picture that. And it's almost like I'm picturing as you're saying, the word repent, it's like this turns, so that his spirit, so that his living water can once again flow through us, so we can become conduits of, of him, not just so that we don't end up in eternal hell, but it's so that we can actually, as he would say, maybe like your kingdom, come on earth as it is in heaven, like being conduits of his kingdom, of his love, of his nature I love that.
Speaker 1:I love that. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. So I've got this strange. Um, there's, there's a I don't remember what the nerve is called, but this nerve in my arm that's, um, it was described to me that for some reason it's kind of on the on the wrong side of a bone or something, I can't remember. But, um, but if I sleep with my arm tucked under me like this if you're, if you're watching the video, you can see what I'm doing but like, if I sleep basically with, uh, with my arms pulled into my, into my chest, especially if I'm on my stomach, then it pinches that nerve and I'll wake up in the middle of the night with no feeling in my hand. I mean, it's almost like my hand is dead. It's a, it's a very strange uh.
Speaker 1:If you've ever had surgery on part of your body and they've done a nerve blocker, you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1:I mean it almost feels like there's this dead limb attached to me and when it first happened to me, it scared the bejeebers out of me because I didn't know that it was temporary.
Speaker 1:I thought like I had something, you know something, my arm had died or something.
Speaker 1:Um, really like having this dead limb and I can't. I can't lift it, I can't move it, I can't do anything with it. All I can do is like I can, I grab it and even with my other hand I can't feel in that arm. I can feel with one hand, but not I can't feel being felt, which is this strange thing, and that's kind of the picture I get, even as you're describing that like so what I, what I have to do, the only thing I can do is to straighten my arm and then to wait, and as I wait, the, the feeling comes back in my arm, my mobility, my ability to use the, the muscles in the arm come back and my ability to feel again comes like an arm. And I think that's, that's another picture. What you're describing, with the kind of straightening the condit you repent, is like like let your arm be straight, that the, the life of god, the feeling of god, the belief of god, the power of god can flow through you like you were meant to live.
Speaker 2:Well, and I can't help but notice the parallel of, like we talked about this in our awakening program. But that whole idea of leprosy is actually a nerve disease of some sort, where you lose feeling and you end up with infections because you've lost feeling. And so many of us want to be comfortably numb, right, as that great Pink Floyd song calls it. So many of us, you know, want to just draw ourselves into our screens and block out the feeling. But there's actually something profound about like you recognize what it means to not feel. You really want to get feeling back to your arm, but what does that mean? That means that this arm could now bump into a cabinet and feel hurt, you know, right after you get out of bed or whatever.
Speaker 2:And it's like something is drawing to my heart, like man God's actually calling us to be people who feel. That's maybe part of what repentance is to feel what he feels, not just do what he does, but like having the heart of Jesus, having compassion, having, I mean he took on through his incarnation. Like you're talking about the ability to physically feel crucifixion, to physically feel torture, to mentally and physically feel the sexual abuse of being put naked on a cross, like I don't know. It's just pretty profound that like the invitation of Christians is not repent, so you end up in eternal bliss and like just grit your teeth until you get there. It's like there's actually part of carrying our cross, might be feeling what he feels, so we can love as he loves yeah, yeah, and we're gonna get into that more tomorrow too, or next week.
Speaker 1:The, the um. I love that. James is so good and he felt, uh, sexual arousal in his body. I mean so, all the sensors that we feel in our genitals or in our body that are so powerful. Jesus knows what that feels like, um, and that is important for where we're going with this. But let me, so, let me land the plane for this week and I hope, if you're listening, um, I guess I do want to say this.
Speaker 1:I think a lot of us have heard something similar to this for a long time. Like Jesus gives us the power to stop sinning. We're going to unpack more what we mean by this, because a lot of us who have tried to stop our sexual sins, tried to stop lusting, tried to stop looking at porn, tried to stop masturbating, tried to stop hooking up whatever it is for you listeners, like we've heard that message and we felt like, oh well, something must be wrong. Maybe I'm not a Christian, maybe that's not true, maybe there's something different or wrong with me. That's not wrong for other people, maybe I'm doing this whole Christianity thing wrong, and then we can tend to move into the space of either despairing and we give up, or we try to work extra hard, work, work, work, and and there is, there is both like rest and work involved in this process. We'll get more into that a little bit tomorrow or next week, sorry, but but just hang on, come back, because we're not just talking about like hey, some Strange out there, it's supposed to happen, but but how, like, if I'm plugged in, how do I plug in Like, um, uh, so we'll, we'll kind of get back to some of that, but let me, let me wrap with this.
Speaker 1:I want to come back to this idea. Take hope in the idea, take hope in the truth that Jesus came to give an example, not an example of like you know, do as I do and you'll become like I become. There is something to that, for sure, for sure, but more so that, as you see the life of Jesus, dare to believe that part of the reason he has come to show himself to you, to show you what a real human person is, what you really are to you, to show you what a real human person is, what you really are, is because he wants you to desire to become what a human really is. He wants you to have an increase in, like, wait, I can become that. I can become a person who looks at people like that, who is able to do that, to live like that, to relate like that, really just park there for a minute.
Speaker 1:So that idea of, like you know, jesus saw things that other people didn't see. Yeah, you're designed to see things that Jesus sees. You're designed to see differently and more than you've seen before. Um, this, I believe is is is what Jesus meant when he announced his, his gospel, by quoting from Isaiah, and he said and I'm going to truncate the passage here but he said I have come to restore sight to the blind, and if lust is one thing, it is blindness. It is not seeing someone fully, and we're going to talk more about that next week. All right, come back for more James. Any, any last questions, thoughts, anything I'm leaving on the table that we shouldn't as we wrap up this week.
Speaker 2:No, I'd love to just say a prayer, though, over those who are listening.
Speaker 1:Yeah, please do, and us too. We need this as well. Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, lord, I just pray, jesus, that you would give us your eyes to see. Give us even that desire, like that great prayer from St Francis Xavier. Grant, oh God, that we may desire you and, desiring you, seek you and seeking you, find you and finding you, be satisfied in you forever, and finding you be satisfied in you forever. Jesus, help us to believe that your way is actually the way of true happiness, true joy, true satisfaction, and may we desire, lord, josh and I and all those listening to see as you see, help us, show us the way. Pray this in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit. Amen.
Speaker 1:Amen.
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