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10 Challenges to parenting sexuality & How the Incarnation solves them - Part 1

Regeneration Ministries Season 4 Episode 11

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What if the goal isn’t to bubble‑wrap your kids from a sexualized world, but to raise resilient, shame‑resistant disciples who know how to repair? James Craig sits down with our newest staff member and parenting resource lead, Blake Brinkman, to tackle five urgent questions parents are asking: shielding kids from porn, responding to rebellion, setting wise screen rules, navigating complexity, and leading from your own healing. Together we rethink control, anchor everything in the Incarnation, and show why exposure may be inevitable, but shame doesn’t have to be.

We dig into why porn hooks the developing brain, how rupture and repair build secure attachment, and what freedom looks like beyond fear tactics. You’ll hear practical steps—shared‑space devices, filtered networks, clear consequence ladders—and the crucial shift from one‑sided edicts to co‑created agreements that teach teens to self‑govern. We contrast healthy boundaries with rigid rules, explain how to talk about desire without panic, and point to trusted resources like Theology of the Body for connecting design, dignity, and delight.

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Free Resources to help you on your journey to Becoming Whole:

👉Men's Overcoming Lust & Temptation Devotional
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👉Compass 21-Day Prayer Journal & Devotional - (Wives who are or have been impacted by partner betrayal)


SPEAKER_01:

How do I shield my kids from porn in a hypersexualized world? What rules should I set about screens, sexual content, boundaries? How do I practice vulnerability as a parent without oversharing? Friends, I'm James Craig, Director of Projects and Spiritual Coach here at Regeneration. And I'm joined by my wonderful, recently joined colleague, Blake Brinkman. He's in an alleyway somewhere in New York City with a cool brick wall in his behind him. Blake is been hired to spearhead our parenting resources. He also is working toward his licensure as a therapist out in New York, you know, the New York licensure. And he coaches teens and and their parents in sexual addiction recovery work. So Blake, I'm so glad to get to interview you today on this podcast.

SPEAKER_00:

It is a joy to be here, my friend. Uh excited for the conversation and uh yeah, just excited to get spend some time together. What a joy.

SPEAKER_01:

So, as you you all could tell from those intro questions, we're actually going to be tackling some really big questions. And uh the title may or may not say the word solves. Um, Blake Blake's here because he has all the answers and he's gonna solve all your issues. Um yeah, we'll take care of them all. We're gonna do a smattering though of of of questions related to parenting sexuality in light of the incarnation. This is coming out around the advent, Christmas season, and a regeneration, we're deeply convinced that the incarnation changes everything, that Jesus coming in the flesh, embodied, um, fully God, fully man, living his life, dying the death he died, raising to life again and ascending to the Father. It determines everything we do, and it's going to impact how we think about parenting sexuality. Now, if you're not a parent, hang in there for two reasons. If you deal with unwanted sexual behavior, it's very possible your parents didn't really know what they were doing either with shepherding your sexuality. And if you're a betrayed spouse, it's very possible that your spouse, who has sexual brokenness, wasn't parented well in these ways either. This is not going to be a shame, you know, shame-infested time of what did my parents get wrong or what am I getting wrong as a parent? Rather, we want us to begin thinking about what does it mean to parent sexuality? What does it mean to disciple our children sexually in light of the incarnation? Okay. So um, with that in mind, Blake, why don't you just start us right off with the first area that you want to address and that you think the incarnation addresses?

SPEAKER_00:

Absolutely. I I would love to. And before I go there, you you put great words to it, but the the the title of this, right? Of the challenges to parenting sexuality and how the incarnation solves them. Uh, it's a funny quirk about me, but I love to type things in the thesaurus and be like, what does this word actually mean? And when you type in solve, you get some other fun words and phrases of like to puzzle out, to fathom, to decipher, decode, to clear up, to straighten out. And I think those just bring a better picture of where we're not expecting to have the foolproof answer to any of these, but to simply just dive a little deeper together and get to explore and start the conversation. So I loved how you put that. And to that point, we will start with how do I shield my kids from porn in a hypersexual world? And it's a it's a valid question, right? We we are all of our kids are growing up in the most hyper sexualized culture there has ever been. And it's been that way for a long time and has only grown increasingly so. And so the the idea behind this is how do I how do I handle my kids' exposure to this when the culture is pouring it in from every angle, not to mention just hardcore pornography or things of that nature, but in our pop culture, in our songs and our TV shows, our movies, it is everywhere. And really, that speaks to part of the point of this, of this idea that exposure to pornography or some form of hypersexual material is simply inevitable in this day and age. I'm sure you've heard someone say it of it's not a matter of if, but a matter of when. Unfortunately, yes. I mean, when we talk to a lot of these parents out here who've been trying so hard and so well with such well-intentioned hearts of, I want to protect my children from this. What a what a valiant, beautiful desire. And the reality is that the enemy, sin, whatever we want to call it, does not care about our boundaries. In fact, the opposite, they're in the business of invading our boundaries and uh seeking to disregard them and bring this type of exposure about in many ways. And so, even outside the house, we have school, we have friends, we have pop culture, we have it on billboards, we have natural things that can simply stir curiosity. And so you can have the best of intentions, and best intentions are great. That is gonna be extremely helpful in the process. And it it's inevitable that it will happen in some way, shape, or form. And the reason that's important is because this speaks to some of the incarnation, right? Of Jesus came to not to simply help us escape the clutches of sin and brokenness and to snap his fingers and transport us to heaven immediately, but he he came and lived in this sinful world. Even when Jesus came in the incarnation, it was still a very sexual world in a lot of ways. And he came to help us interact with it, to be in it, and yet in a way that portrays the beauty and grace of the gospel that involves repair, regeneration, reconnecting with our true selves in him and charting a new way forward that speaks to life, joy, and peace, even in the midst of such a hypersexual world.

SPEAKER_01:

Like I recently been listening to um a summit called the Attachment to God Summit. It was a wonderful um three days of content around this theme of attachment to God and one another. And one of the things they reminded me of in the summit was we actually shouldn't, as parents, as caregivers, we shouldn't be hyper-vigilant against rupture because we actually need rupture. Whether it's literally the smallest of rupture, you know, there's an infant and mommy goes around the corner and the infant starts crying, where's mom? That's a super small rupture. But then the repair is mom comes back into the kitchen and is engaging the child. And so without that kind of rupture and repair, we don't actually develop what people call a secure attachment. I'm sure you could say much more about this, Blake, with your therapeutic training. But this idea of it's gonna be okay because when something goes wrong, my parent or caregiver or ultimately getting attached to God, God will make it right. And I think that's gonna be a theme throughout these questions. Like part of the beauty of the gospel, part of the beauty of the incarnation is that rupture of the rupture of sin and and the death that sin created was not insurmountable to God, that he's actually in the business of repairing. And I love that you use our our name, regenerating us, you know, this new generation of life.

SPEAKER_00:

You you put it so well, and it's funny. I've I've read a lot of parenting experts at this point, and I would say the general theme of some of the experts in the field is this idea that parenting it, if you had to boil it down to one simple word, they would say parenting is about repair, which I think is so beautiful of how it points back to Jesus in incarnation. Jesus, I was I was gonna say this exact phrase and you said it before I could even, but Jesus is in the business of repair, of regeneration. And so Jesus is not scared of rupture, and we need not be either. That doesn't mean there's not gonna be lots of emotions and complexities when this sexual world hits us in the face at times, but that we can have hope and peace that Jesus with us in that in the incarnation. He has come to us to be with us in this process of repair and regeneration.

SPEAKER_01:

I gotta stay on this for just one more moment, Blake, before we move forward. And by the way, we're getting through a lot of stuff. So as you're listening, you'll notice we have uh email link, perhaps even a texting link in the show notes. Let us know. Let us know the resources that you want more information on. Some of these are gonna be more focused on developing children. Some of these 10 things are gonna be more focused on helping a teen who's struggling at this point. But regardless of whatever stage of parenting you're at, let us know what you want Blake working on. Give him give him some some clear uh work and some things to do. So, Blake, let's get into number two then. What's the second thing that parents uh second challenge that you have for parenting sexuality?

SPEAKER_00:

A big challenge that comes up often is this idea of what do I do when my child or teen seems to rebel in the area of sexuality, maybe around using porn or pursuing a sexual relationship of some kind. And this one comes up a lot and is so, so important. And it it brings up a lot of complexities as well, of a feeling of rebellion or maybe betrayal. And maybe that's a part of your story. Maybe there's some connection there, or uh a child or teen didn't follow the rules, the boundaries you set up with the best of intentions to try and help them remain in uh God's design for sexuality that leads to life and joy. And so let me qualify with that that there can be a lot of other factors and influences here, right? And a key I want to highlight here is this idea of understanding how addictive porn and any type of hypersexuality is to the brain in general, to even the adult brain, but to the childhood or teenage brain, the the levels of addiction, the biological things it actually causes to the brain are profound. And we we could spend an hour just talking about that. But the reason I bring it up is because there can often be a misunderstanding of why kids are drawn to pornography or to whatever their sexual pursuit may be. And so it can be helpful to understand these deeper elements of addiction and brain chemistry going on, and because porn is built to be addictive, to be captivating, to be preying on the minds of the younger generation. It's interesting. We James and I were just leading uh our men's retreat uh for Awaken, and we did a little exercise in there of essentially asking this question of when was the first time you were exposed to porn or some type of hypersexual material or behavior? And the average age came back to 10 years old. And this may sound crazy, but it's true. That that's a typical age, and a 10-year-old brain is not ready to handle the levels of addiction, of brain chemicals that get thrown into the brain at that age. And so to at least begin this idea of maybe, maybe there is some rebel rebellion involved for our child or our teen, and maybe there's a large bit of things they don't understand, of they're not sure why they're drawn to it. They're not sure why they keep going back, of painting this larger picture and this larger story of I'd imagine they don't want to be there either. And so helping us to understand that. And the beauty of this is that Jesus in the incarnation, he came to set the captives free, right? There's so much more than uh just this rebellion of us from sin and separating ourselves, but he is aware of that and he's in the business of freedom, of setting us free, of seeing the larger picture going on and saying, I want to move into that in order to set you free.

SPEAKER_01:

That's beautiful. Yeah, I think um if parents don't already know, uh, our executive director co-authored a book called Treading Boldly Through a Pornographic World. And um, you know, a part of what I think he's trying to do, Blake, you've actually I've only gotten through about half of it. Um, but you've gotten through the whole thing. And part of I think what it's trying to get at is this is actually an opportunity for something deeper that the Lord might want to do in someone's heart. I know in my own life, Blake, that um I've looked at certain friendships and and other guys who they don't have uh addictive behavior struggles, and that's amazing. We we should never wish the peace on anyone. But the the repair work that I got to do through my own journey with with regeneration going through our awakened program, um it set me up in new ways with my relationship with God. It set me up on this maturity journey in areas that I never even knew needed attention or tending. And in some ways, I look at that, I'm like, I've learned more of what I was looking for and more of how to find that in healthy holy ways, as we say.

SPEAKER_00:

Um, absolutely. It's I don't want to jump to it, but I'm going to just because it fits so perfectly here. But we'll we'll talk about this more in one of our later points. But this idea of what God is doing something beautiful even in our sexual recovery journey, or whatever it may be, something I share with nearly every teenager I work with who often comes to me with this idea of I need to cleanse myself of this sexual sin. I need to build a spotless sexual journey. And something we'll talk about is this idea of if God's most important good was our sexual spotlessness, wouldn't he simply snap his fingers and be done with it? And I would say the reason he doesn't is because there's something so beautiful he wants to teach us about how loved we are, about our core identity, about his design for sexuality, about his beauty and desire he's crafted into our design. There's we could do a whole deep dive on it. But that you were putting great words to this idea that God is teaching and growing and navigating. And so, once again, back to that first point of a rupture is not to be despised or ran away from at all costs, but to look at the beautiful invitation for repair and regeneration, really.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, and I've met a handful of people and I've heard of a handful of people who have had the miraculous God took it away overnight. Right, right. And they actually, two things about them. One is clearly God has his reasons for doing that, like good reasons, like perhaps someone actually did have a pretty solid whatever, or God has a certain plan and purpose that that needed that. But even our founder, Blake, I don't know if you've heard this. 45 years ago, when we were founded by Alan Menninger, he had a miraculous encounter with the Lord. It was very subtle, but it was very real. And what that actually caused was the starting of regeneration, which is a beautiful thing. But he actually knew he needed to do something. He knew God was calling him to walk with other men struggling. But he didn't actually know the step-by-step way to move into sexual maturity. He actually had to figure that out when it came to what does it mean to be a man? What does it mean to be a father? So that's why he had a book called Um Growth into Manhood, because he really had to struggle and figure that out with the Lord. But he actually didn't immediately understand the way to help other people get free. Now, undoubtedly, his love, his compassion, his slow journeying with people was a big deal, especially 45 years ago when there weren't a lot of ministries in this space. But but when God gives that miracle, you might be praying that for your kid right now. God, take this away. And he might do that. And he also might he might, and he also might want to do something deeper in your child than it's possible to see yet. And that actually might be a good question, Lord. What are you trying to do in my child? Like what areas of maturity or transformation are you actually after in my child?

SPEAKER_00:

That's absolutely right. We'll we'll talk about this concept a lot, and it it's perfect in the incarnation because it's this idea of andness of two things can be true at the same time. God, divine yet human flesh in the person of Jesus, right? And so this andness of I I encourage parents, pray for God relieve, heal, remove whatever these sexual temptations, actions, behaviors may be, and teach me what you may be trying to teach through this. Show me what you may be guiding my son or daughter through. What are you leading us to that's even deeper into yourself? And both have the space with our beautiful God who has space for many things at the same time.

SPEAKER_01:

Well, and Blake, I never thought of it this way until you said it, but the parent themselves might be feeling a sense of betrayal. We usually think of betrayal as spousal betrayal here, but what is God trying to do in your family? Like what if you're a parent and you're really broken and feel betrayed, and what what's gone wrong with my child? Why are they stuck here? What is God actually wanting to do in your own heart? Like there's something, there's something there, there's something that He is deeper for you, not just for your child, for your whole family as a system, as a as a group, rather than just let me get my child on the right track. Well, well, Blake, let's get to a very practical one. Another challenge is what rules do I set up about screens, about sexual content boundaries? Like, okay, I get that I can't fully control, but isn't there wisdom in having having some stuff set up to block my child from viewing or getting ensnared by pornography?

SPEAKER_00:

A great question. And absolutely, there's great practical wisdom to these things. And I encourage all parents to do your research and find the best system that makes sense to you, right? And to get educated on it, right? To simply spend some time of what do these things do? Something I'll hear from a lot of parents is that's outside my realm. I don't even understand it. I don't know what's going on there. And I hear you. I'm I'm not a techie person. Those things are difficult for me too. And what an opportunity to gain some more information, to gain some more understanding around, I wonder how these things work so that I can help protect my kid. And to remember, right, that this protection doesn't go as so far as removing all potential ruptures. And we can be as proactive as we can. And so uh put the barriers, the primers in place. And two, uh, what I want to highlight here is this idea of getting to the heart of the issue and two, bringing our kids alongside us at the right ages of creating these boundaries together. And so what I mean by that is when our kids are younger, you know, five through 10 maybe, of there's a deep requirement for the parents to lead the charge of, hey, here are the boundaries in place, here's how we set them up. But to go to the heart of the issue of here's why we set them up. Here's here's why mom and dad together operate under a similar boundary in these ways, because we want to protect ourselves from whatever that may be, which bleeds into a longer, larger conversation of when to have which conversation about sexuality with kids at these ages. But that's a that's a podcast topic for another time. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01:

So we'll have to have to be back to to get into that one.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, we'll we'll do a deep dive there. And so communicating the heart behind the issue, which I love in Jesus in the incarnation, he comes to us as a person walking to the heart of these issues rather than just the Ten Commandments or just um whatever it may be. He not only answers our questions, but takes it to the deeper level of here's why, or here's the idea, or the broader meaning behind it. And so that can be really powerful. And then, two, especially when our kids turn into teenagers, of allowing them to be a part of the more they know the why, the more they will want to be a part of creating these boundaries together. And when they know that, they have buy-in into the process rather than, well, this is just something you told me to do. So I'm, I'll maybe do it, but I'm unsure about it. Now it's I want to work together with you, mom and dad, in progressing and creating these boundaries, which I'll tell you is gonna have a lot of rupture and repair in it. But I believe teens will learn so much about their own development and discipleship in the process.

SPEAKER_01:

You bring me to something from a book we always are quoting, Unwanted by Jay Stringer, where he talks about the difference between unhealthy rigidity and healthy rules. And one way he describes it is healthy rules are like a fence around the Grand Canyon. Not one that would remove the beauty of the Grand Canyon, but simply one that stops a child from falling off the canyon. That's a healthy rule. Like you want your kids to not fall into the canyon. A rigid rule would be one that is used more like a weapon, it's used more out of a place of shame, fear. And I'm positive none of us are ever going to get that perfectly separated out. But I love what you're saying that Jesus' heart, even I think part of the heart of the Ten Commandments with this, in some ways, infant community, this brand new community of the Israelites, was like, hey, this will destroy you. Like, don't fall off these cliffs, like follow these Ten Commandments. But we needed something more ultimately. We needed someone who knew the heart so deeply that he wasn't just, hey, let me remind you of the Ten Commandments. Obviously, he lived them, he breathed them, but he's like, let's actually get to the heart issues at play here. Oh, so true. So, Blake, let's get into number four. What's what's our next uh challenge um in parenting sexuality?

SPEAKER_00:

Uh I I love number four because it sounds so simple, yet it's not. Um, number four is this idea of how do I even parent something as complex as sexuality? Um, brings these ideas of I'm not even sure what I believe about sex, right? Uh a lot of what we run into around this is uh a lot of different kinds of educations, even spiritual church educations around sexuality growing up, that not to mention our own pain and uh brokenness around sexuality, to what we've seen from friends and family and pop culture, all of these are informing the the puzzle pieces of what we think about sexuality, how we frame sexuality from a biblical lens or not. And so the simple point is this to it's kind of in the question itself, but to understand the idea that this is incredibly complex, and that's okay, right? I love the the incarnation's a great parallel here because what could be more complex than this idea of the person of Jesus being fully divine, yet fully man, humanity.

SPEAKER_01:

There's that andness again.

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah. Exactly, the and-ness. And so to take that andness will give us a lot more clarity in our discussions and explorations around sex of I'm not sure about this area of sexuality, and I'm gonna try and ask for help. And maybe someone has some information or resources about this. And you know what? I'm gonna I'm gonna press pause on that because I'm not sure. And so there's so much room here for healthy growth, healthy learning. And what I see from a lot of parents is this uh really uh burdensome temptation of I've gotta be positive, I've gotta be certain. That's right. I need to have all the answers around sexuality, which I don't have all the answers around sexuality, James. I'm sure you don't have all the answers around sexuality. And the reality is none of us do. And so to simply take that weight off our shoulders, and the beauty of that is the incarnation that Jesus with us in the most complex areas of this world and our design, and he promises to be with us in them, to continue to shepherd us, to guide us, to teach us, and to give us hope rather than condemnation of, oh no, what if I do this wrong? That rupture and repair once again.

SPEAKER_01:

And if you're looking for a deeper understanding, you'll find some of our episodes reference something called Theology of the Body. So you could do a search for Theology of the Body on the Becoming Whole podcast that you're listening to. But also, Christopher West runs a ministry called Theology of the Body Institute. And several of our staff um have gone through his Theology of the Body level one training. It's like a week of all day training around these topics of what is sex for? What is sexuality about? And it is complex. He does a great job explaining it, but they also have a free YouTube channel. You could look up Christopher West's Theology of the Body, and he answers some of the wild, the wildest questions you could ever imagine. The things that you're probably wondering, but didn't even know you could ask as a Christian. Um, beautiful resource there. So, Blake, I think we have time for just one more of our 10 challenges. What's our last challenge for today?

SPEAKER_00:

This is a great one to finish with, and it kind of wraps all of them up together and will probably lead well into our further conversations. But this idea of how do I face my own sexual shame while guiding my kids through theirs? And maybe not even their sexual shame, but their own sexual development. How do I guide this when I feel so burdened around my own sexual story? I feel so much pain and shame and um so many emotions, right? There can be anger, there can be disgust, there can be an apathy there, there can be a huge desire there. Maybe you as a parent struggle with unwanted sexual behaviors or thoughts. And there's a wonder if if I'm dealing with this, how do I even begin to coach my child or my teen through their story or their struggles? And so that there's a lot here. And we we could talk about this one for probably five podcasts. And the reason it's so important is because the more we engage our own sexual story, our own sexual brokenness, and we see this beauty of Jesus, the incarnated, take on flesh Jesus who came to save us, to be with us, to teach us and guide us, uh, Emmanuel, the God with us, even in our sexual brokenness. The more we engage these themes, these ideas in our own story, that will be what empowers us to lead our children and teens through theirs. And to once again take that weight off the shoulders of I need to have all the answers. I need to know exactly what to do, or even I need to have a sexual, spotless journey that's righteous and holy. It uh we I won't do a deep dive on this, but our our kids are often so blessed by our vulnerability, by our our healing, our our walking through our own story. They they can see the effects of it, whether it's explicitly or implicitly, of how that allows us to operate within theirs. And so we could talk about this for so long and I love it because it's so beautiful. But our sexual brokenness and story as parents is once again not the not the thing to be avoided, but to experience the repair of the incarnated Jesus, and that will lead us to the same repair with our children and our teens in their sexual story.

SPEAKER_01:

Like that is beautiful. I'm gonna ask you to pray that over our listeners in just a moment. But again, I just want to highlight what you're sharing, treading boldly, the book that I'm if you're watching on YouTube, you can see me holding it up. Um, what I do remember from going through, like I said, about half of it was Josh and Daniel, the authors of this book, their heart is actually to help the reader who's the parent do their own integrative work to connect their own shame or brokenness with Jesus, because it's out of that place that we naturally are gonna do by far the best parenting around sexuality. When we're parenting out of our sexual shame, like what was wrong with me all those years when I had sex outside of marriage, or when I was addicted to pornography, or when I whatever, we're actually it's gonna be a lot harder to communicate uh a gospel-centered, uh Christ-centered vision of sexuality because we're gonna be kind of bouncing between our own maybe legalistic feelings about ourselves and our licensed licentious feelings about ourselves, the things that's like whatever, versus the things that we try to really clamp down on. And we might even bounce back and forth over over the you know journey of parenting. Um, but when we actually do that integrative work with Jesus, it sets us up so much differently. So, again, friends, um let us know. What are some of the themes we we got into five major challenges and how the incarnation engages them, how it, how it, how it shows God's presence within these challenges. Let us know which of these you want more more on. Do you want a course on one of these? Do you want more podcasts on one of these topics? Do you want um more seminar options around these things? So please let us know. We do have again the treading boldly book. We have treading boldly workshops, we have parental guidance workshops. So we do have a few different parenting resources already in the wild. Uh the workshops are things, by the way, you can have your church do. Uh, the book, obviously, you can get on your own. But uh, but Blake, so grateful to have you on. And again, we'd just love for you to pray for our listeners as they are digesting these five challenges. Uh, I would love to.

SPEAKER_00:

It'd be an honor. Um, Lord Jesus, we uh we ask for this idea of repair, regeneration, God, of over all of our sexual stories, not just our child and our teens, God, but would you would you heal us, God? Would you transform um us and our stories? Would you move us from brokenness to healing, to peace, to joy, to life? And God, we simply thank you and praise you that you are a God of repair, that you move towards us in our struggle, in our brokenness with such compassion and kindness to heal, to draw us more and more into your beautiful goodness, your beautiful design. And God, may that healing process then overflow into our children to more and more generations, God, that get to experience the beauty of your grace and your love for us, God. You, you took on flesh to be with us, to die and rise again so that we could be with you, God. What a what a beautiful picture of repair, God. May we feel your presence in all of this journey and know that you long to be with us in it. We thank you, Lord. We love you, we trust you. It's in your name we pray. Amen.

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